ishyface: (fuck you)
the creature from the blog lagoon ([personal profile] ishyface) wrote2008-11-09 01:54 pm

Comparing oppressions: still not cool!

Fuck you, Dan Savage.

Oh, no, those scary black people are threatening the nice white gays! (Because there's never any crossover between those two groups, nuh uh.) Let's blame THEM for Prop 8 passing. Not conservative scare tactics. Not the far right. Not fundamentalist Christians. Not the SCARY OLD WHITE DUDES WHO DRAFTED THE GODDAMN THING. Nope, it was all up to black folks and THEY BLEW IT GOSH DARN THEM.

FUCK. YOU.

[identity profile] flukycoda.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
dan savage is a notorious fucknut. that is all.

[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I really, really dislike him. He's said plenty of racist (and sexist, and transphobic) stuff before but this? This just takes the fucking cake, especially in light of this. >:(
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[identity profile] yan-tan-tether.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
This just makes me despair. As if Prop 8 passing wasn't bad enough, morons have to start throwing blame around.

[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
In Dan Savage's world Coretta Scott King does not exist.

[identity profile] ficangel.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oppressors benefit when the oppressed turn upon each other, Dan Savage, you racist fuckwit. Not to mention that the numbers don't bear you out.

I'm not saying that there isn't homophobia within the black community that needs to be addressed, just as there is clearly, from your above link, racism in the LGBT community that needs to be addressed. But to try to play dueling oppressions is absolute failsauce.

[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. THIS.

[identity profile] ladydreamer.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't aware that the Mormons were a predominately black church -__-

[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Mormons = totally not racist at all, ever!

[identity profile] ladydreamer.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I stole it from a flister. I was like... wait. What? They're blaming the blacks for this? What?

I swear, everything that comes up lately, they find a way to blame the black community. Bad economy? Well, it's from giving loans to those poor black people who can't pay them back!! Oppression of gays? Well, obviously, black people are totes homophobic, not anyone else, so it's their fault because they all went out to vote! Even the babies!

Please.

[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
What a very handy link.
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[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Asexuality doesn't exist, bisexuals will always (always! always! always!) end up in heterosexual marriages, no real gay dude would ever sleep with a transman, if someone fetishizes you for your race you should sleep with them anyway because how else are you going to get laid...

Apparently his version of sex-positivity involves having his head in his ass. (Which is okay if you're into that, but is definitely one of my hard limits.)
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[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
That depends on how well you hide the crowbar.

[identity profile] mresundance.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I actually like Dan Savage's column, because he usually just tells it like it is. It's hilarious when he talks down people who are acting immature and stupid about sex and relationships.

But that don't mean he's also not an asshole at times. He's the cream of the gay crop and a poster child for white, male and nearly normative enough to be totally vanilla type of "gay" which the HRC loves to embrace because it doesn't scare mainstream America. Blah.

[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
He gives good advice sometimes. But whenever the subject is something like race, or transsexuality, or bisexuality, or vaginas, or not wanting to give head, or not wanting to have sex at all... he tends to be pretty douchey. His version of "sex-positivity" is a really unnerving mix of "anything goes!" and "... but not that, ew."

He's like the girl in that nursery rhyme: when he's good he's very very good, and when he's bad he does shit like this and I want to punch him in the throat.

(Except I don't think that's actually how that rhyme ends.)

[identity profile] mresundance.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
like race, or transsexuality, or bisexuality, or vaginas, or not wanting to give head, or not wanting to have sex at all... he tends to be pretty douchey

True enough. He did have a semi decent FTM panelish week where FTMs weighted in about a creepy gay dude who wanted to "fuck [our] hot sexy wetness" or "transguy pie" or something weird (which meant he was a chaser, obviously). And Sherman Alexie guested as advice sounding board once. Only to have Dan ignore anything he suggested. *eyeroll*

But his version of sexy positivity is dubious at best, considering he's probably never been in a situation that would squick him, or, he would allow himself to admit he'd been squicked.

[identity profile] youidiotkid.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
... WAT?!
>_

[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Dan Savage makes me do that face kind of a lot.

[identity profile] clawxco.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
this guy kinda seems like a nutbag but I haven't read anything else from him, just this silly remark because black people totally can't be gay and they are ALL against homosexual marriage!!!!

also this video on Mormonism is awesome, the Mormon Jesus is my fucking hero.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo

[identity profile] ishyface.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
They run his column in The Scope, I think. Sometimes he has witty, insghtful things to say. The rest of the time... this.

I remember watching that video when I was stoned once. It blew my miiiiiind.

[identity profile] cosmorific.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, Dan Savage, for giving me yet another reason to hate your guts.